Thursday, September 11, 2008

aku vs PAS

Assalamualaikum,

I guess this is my first time writing about politics. I like politics. One of my dreams when I was small was to become a prime minister. Well, right now the dream has faded away since there has been no encouragement. PAS, Pan Malaysian Islamic Party (Malay: Parti Islam SeMalaysia) is one of my favourite parties since its goals matches my understanding about the purpose of life. I was informed about PAS since I was small through reading HARAKAH and listening to lectures about Islam. I really want to establish an Islamic state and I want to see Islam conquer the world. When I was in Greece, I met one secular Turkish guy and he criticized me for my ideologies about an Islamic state. He said that Islamic states like IRAN, PAKISTAN and SAUDI ARABIA are the worst. Implementing Islam within a state will only cause trouble and desperation within its society. No one ever challenged my ideologies about an Islamic state before and I believe that different muslims have different understanding about what an Islamic state is, how it should be established, where, when and etc.

An Islamic state as I imagine it, is like the one that was established during the time of PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAW AND HIS COMPANIONS. It must be just, fair, advanced in terms of technology and posseses good leadership. Just imagine everything you can about how the best government should be. That is an Islamic state. 

The issue here is, what is the difference between my struggle to realize an Islamic state with PAS? I cannot deny the contribution PAS has made in implementing Islam in MALAYSIA. The same goes with the contribution of AL-ARQAM in encouraging muslim Malaysians to wear hijab. PAS is focussing on politics to establish an Islamic state in Malaysia.that is their focused. Through my understanding, in order to establish an Islamic state, politics shouldn't be my focus but instead we have to focus on educating people about Islam. By doing this, I believe we can establish a very good Islamic state while at the same time having people practising and understanding the teachings of Islam. We have to shape the people first then when they are behaving like real, true-to-the-core muslims, we can move on to the next stage through politics.

If we try to build an Islamic state through politics while people still don't understand Islam, it will become a fitna to Islam because the people will see Islam as unjust due to their lack of understanding. We will be punishing people who are uninformed about it. Once more I would like to stress here, I am not trying to dispute what PAS had done but instead I'm just sharing a  different understanding. Different ways of fighting a battle does not mean weakness. We should see this as a strength because when the time has come for Islam to rise, all other aspects like politics, economy, manners, cultures and etc will be ready to join the movement.

Thank you

Salam kurma tiga biji

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

sorry but don't really agree with your point that pas only focus on politic but not focusing on teaching people to understand islam. Know something first before you said about that particular thing. Ever wonder why they establish PASTI for kids? How about Kolej Islam Darul Ulum in Pokok Sena, Kedah!?
or maybe their own usrah group that already establish early before other were already in msia? Ever have any knowledge about it?
how about those pondok institution that they already establish but were banned by or taken over by the government?
Plz, know something before you said about it. Its not enough to just hear what people talking about or just read from harakah! What more if u were influenced by those who were envy of PAS! dont wanna mention it, but even among the Islamic organization in Msia, some were not happy with PAS because PAS are more like traditional movement who seems to indulge more in Politic.
I wonder why Fathi Yakan also involve in politics?!! :S

abdulmuhaimin_ali said...

well, i never deny what PAS had done before. alhamdulillah for that. you have to admit that PAS is a political party and they main agenda is to establish islam through politics. i want to stress the word FOCUS i used in my writing.

Anonymous said...

"PAS is focussing on politics to establish an Islamic state in Malaysia but at the same time they do not focus on educating the people about what Islam is"

THIS is the point that i think u r totally wrong! do u think that we can achieve an islamic state without politic?!!
so u think that they did not prepare the ummah at the same time? plz man, be rational. i brought my point about the establishment of PASTI and others, do u think thats not what they had try to do all these while? I dont think its fair to just label them focusing only on politic but not on the understanding of islam among the citizen.
what i can say here is that u seems to have some idea that they did not have any 'usrah' stuff that u call and many other recently establish islamic organisations call which i think u seems like the only way to make people understand about islam.
Be it ur FOCUS word or whatever, its stil not fair to label them only stress the politics parts. in fact, i dont think we can achieve any islamic state without politics. Just look at the example of kelantan. u may get the better picture of what they (PAS) are trying to do.
Sorry if a bit harsh but i totally dont agree with u.
The quote above is the part that i totally disagree!

Muaz Nabil said...

wowo...what a discussion we have here..haha. patut lbh bnyk hg tulis pasal politik ni min. haha. ajak zul tulis sama, sure lg best. :D

Anonymous said...

haha.. muhaimin. aku dah agak dah..mesti akan ade org bantai ko balik...takpe muhaimin..dunia ni dah maju..everyone is subjected to their opinion.

betullah ape yang ko tulis...tak salah langsung...PAS memang buat kesilapan besar..hainz...ape la...terlebih fokus dalam politik...napela manusia seperti Tuan Guru Nik Abdul Aziz tu pergi join PAS..mesti nak politik jek..patutnyer die focus kat mengajar orang apa itu ISLAM..tp TOO FOCUS on politic plak.....sibuk betul Tuan Guru carik redha manusia...kan min?

mungkin sebab tuan Guru tu ilmu die lagi rendah dari ko kot..haha..ko kan pandai..blaja medic..tido dalam kelas pun bole blaja medic..gempak ar ko..kalahkan Tuan Guru...siapala tuan Guru tu yang sibuk politik...

FIKIR2KAn...

abdulmuhaimin_ali said...

i admit that the sentences is not totally true. may be i should improve my english. hahahahah. what i am trying to say is PAS is a political party, and trying to establish a islamic state through polititc. what i dont agree is there are many people discussing about islamic state that they dont understand what is islamic state actually is. they are hardcore PAS fan but at the same time neglect the prayer and dont read quran.

furthermore, islamic law like hudud cannot be implemented when there is no justice in the state. this is unfair to the people when surrounding is incondusive but you insist to apply the law.

islamic state must have a strong economy, educated citizen, great leaders and etc so that people dont misunderstand islam . if we want to establish islamic through politic, when PAS win and the time come for PAS to implement hudud, people regret it. the country is not based on the basis to fear of ALLAH.

RASULULLAH SAW did not accept the power offered by the musyrikin leaders because he understand that we must instill the takwa first and foremost. and then the political aspect will come on itself as promised by ALLAH.

again, i am neither trying to dispute any contribution that PAS did nor say bad things to PAS leaders. i just saying that establishing islam through politic is not a perfect idea. in politic, u critized people for 20 years and after that when u see they can help u in your campaign, u celebrate them for instance dr mahathir, anwar ibrahim, ezzam and etc.

AFRO117 said...

Susah betul la min dealing w anon2.
I'm not that good with politics.

But for starters, i kinda think that you
Managed to deliver what you intend to.

And to serap- I really think you should
Keep your comment to yourself.
Coz nobody likes perli2 statement
Like yours.

Keep it mum to yourself.

I bet you are 1 genius who's
Taking medicine as well.

Genius ppl don't put down other people.-
They help them instead..

abdulmuhaimin_ali said...

yela2...aku tido je dlm kelas...pasal tu tade awek suke kat aku....hahahahahahha

Muaz Nabil said...

hmm...

RASULULLAH SAW did not accept the power offered by the musyrikin leaders because he understand that we must instill the takwa first and foremost. and then the political aspect will come on itself as promised by ALLAH.

aku agak kurang stuju la dgn hg pnya pernyataan ni min. sbb setau aku la, rasulullah reject sebenarnya sbb kalau baginda accept, baginda dah xleh nk sebarkn Islam sbb tu salah satu syarat. Ni yg masa awal2 tu kn? Masa baginda ditawarkn bnyk bnda semata2 untuk berhenti sebarkn islam tu. btoi x? sori kalau salah. hehe

lg satu, yg pasal politik tu. aku rasa tu saja la kot caranya nk jd negara Islam. Sbb kalau dah nama negara, kena la ada politik. Apa namanya negara kalau xdak politik.
Sedangkn rasulullah pun jd pemimpin politik kn? :D

"in politic, u critized people for 20 years and after that when u see they can help u in your campaign, u celebrate them for instance dr mahathir, anwar ibrahim, ezzam and etc."
yang pasai ni pulak, aku rasa kita boleh saja kritik sapa2 yg wat x betul, tp once diorng dah x wat lg bnda tu, x perlu la kita nk bermusuh lg. Macam org2 yg dulu bermusuh ngan Islam la, lepas dah masuk Islam, xkn nk bermusuh lg? ye x? Kalau dah diorng boleh membantu, apa salahnya kita bekerjasama...

yg pasal hudud tu aku x brani komen. tp seems like bnyk misunderstanding kat situ. huhu

Just an opinion from a friend. :)
Selamat berpuasa min...

Zulhimi said...

Hmmph....to Serap. I will respond to you and this post. Anonymous, don't worry. In the next entry I'll tell everyone why we need and have to politicize the rise of Islam.

Serap's attitude memang sampah. Kalau ya pun, TG Nik Aziz tu jauh lebih berilmu dari kau. Tokoh-tokoh macam ustaz Hasrizal ngan Ustaz Zaharuddin pun boleh terima kepimpinan dia. Kalau kau tak leh, jangan laa nak ngata orang. Aku tak nafi TG Nik Aziz ada buat silap. Dia bukan maksum pun. Kau berani kata kalau kau yang claim sebagai pejuang Islam boleh tadbir negeri and bagi Tarbiyyah kat rakyat macam dia buat? Haish.....fikir2kan. Lagi satu kau cakap ; "PAS buat kesilapan besar...hainz. Cuba spesifikkan sikit apa "kesilapan besar" tu?!

Anonymous said...

betullah tu pemburu:Artikel politik mmg hot, lebih-lebih lagi kalau penulisnya x dpt pendedahan yg sebenarnya ttg sesuatu perkara,lg2 org2 yg x dpt tarbiah pas. tp bagusnya ada blog adalah people can know that u are misunderstood in certain issues and people can correct u,then, it depends on whether to accept it or not.i've got tarbiah from pas,i've got the the opportunities to meet pimpinan pas in campus thru usrah, even every campus ada gerakan pas cuma namanya lain. kalau letak nama pas, sure-fire dead-cert kena ban. Alhamdulillah, i've got tarbiah not only thru usrah, but also includes latihan kepimpinan, ekonomi,even silibus usrah pas cover all the important issues of Islam such as islamic state, hudud etc. And not to forget, i've got to go thru certain tests on islamic knowledge and other important knowledge. just want to share with the writer...u can delete my comment if u want.

Anonymous said...

Salam

Min, ku shahnom
Lama x jumpa
Tau2 ko dah pandai berpolitik

Ahaha..
Dulu masa kat KMB
Ku pernah jaja artikel yang mengutuk kepimpinan BN di Malaysia
Masa tu ku naif sangat
Ku jaja artikel tuh untuk tunjuk yang pembangkang sanggup buat fitnah demi nak kemenangan politik

Wallahualam...

Sekarang ku dah totally ubah pandangan
180 degree
Daripada hardcore BN
Bertukar kepada supporter kuat PAS

Ku bersetuju dengan apa yang disampaikan anonymous

Ku cuma nak sentuh satu jer
Iaitu part komen ko yg bawah2 tuh

Mengenai hardcore fans PAS yang x solat, etc

Kalau kt kampung ku
Ada sorang ni kaki zina
Memang dia cerita dengan bangga camne dia berzina dan dengan spe
Then anak2 dia pun ntah2 pe...
Pada masa yg sama dia ni supporter kuat PAS
Pernah anak haji Hadi buat ceramah umum kat umah dia
Usrah PAS pun rasanya pernah buat kt situ
Kira kat kampung ku
Sekampung tahu dia org kuat PAS

Dulu masa ku skola menengah
Ada sorg kawan ku ni
KAlau ke sekolah beg dia memang sarat dengan barang2 bacaan pas
Dia dtg dri keluarga yg hardcore pas
Tp dia juga kaki maksiat
The worse adalah dia pernah melakukan maksiat bersama seorang pelajar wanita di sebuah sekolah agama, sebagai celebrate habis spm

2 cerita kat atas tu menyokong dakwaan muhaimin
memang ramai hardcore fans PAS yang 'mcm haram.'

Ni antara reason ku sgt anti PAS suatu masa dulu

La ni bila dok kaji2, dok bincang2, dok banding2 ceramah kat utube-vcd-live, dok pi usrah-usrah yg mcm2, etc

Ku yakin yang PAS benar2 memperjuangkan ISlam
Malahan menjadi hukum fardhu ain kepada setiap umat ISlam di Malaysia untuk menyertai PAS bagi memperjuangkan sebuah negara Islam

Dulu sebelum PAS tertubuh
Sudah ada hizbul muslimin
Setelah diharamkan British
Maka hampir kesemua ulama' dalam hizbul muslimin dan juga ulama'2 besar di Tanah Melayu menubuhkan PAS

Sebelum itu mereka pernah masuk UMNO dan cuba memperjuangkan Islam menerusi sayap agama UMNO
Namun bilamana pandangan mereka dipandang enteng oleh pucuk pimpinan
Maka mereka keluar beramai2 dan merekalah antara yg terlibat dalam penubuhan PAS

Sebelum hizbul muslimin tertubuh pun
Gerakan Islam di Tanah Melayu memang sangat kuat
Namun disembunyikan daripada buku2 teks sekolah
Antara contoh simple,

Masa Abdul Rahman Limbong berperang dengan British
Beliau membawa bendera Khilafah Turki Uthmaniah
~ namun fakta ni langsung x dpt dijumpai dalam teks sejarah

Berbalik kepada isu fans hardcore PAS yg tak solat, etc

Kita kena faham yang PAS adalah sebuah jemaah Islam yang bergerak menggunakan lapangan demokrasi menerusi pilihanraya

Sedangkan non-muslim seperti mat Hindu pun suka sangat kat PAS
Sampai ada yg bubuh gamba Nik Aziz kat kuil

Takkan orang Islam yang tak solat , or etc, tanak sokong PAS

Atleast yg muslim x solat ni masih lagi ada peluang masuk syurga dibandingkan dengan yg non muslim

Adakah salah menjadi peminat Islam lantaran nilai2 mulia yg ada dalam Islam?

Yg join PAS terbahagi kepada dua group
Satu yang masuk PAS melalui pintu politik...
Yang ni yg selalu wat kacau dan menjatuhkan imej PAS

Yang kedua adalah mereka yg melalui pintu tarbiyah
Iaitu melalui usrah2 di sekolah,kampus,tempat kerja
Melalui ceramah2 agama dan dakwah secara peribadi
Melalui sekolah2 pondok dan sekola2 agama
Etc..
Yg ni merupakan nadi PAS


Islam ini sempurna
Namun mengapa ramai umat Islam masih mengamalkan rasuah, zina, judi, minum arak...
Adakah melalui umat Islam kita mahu menilai Islam


Min
Selamat Beramadhan
0-0
Kalau ku datang Ireland
Kita sembang panjang ya..

~ oh one more
Ramai jer muslimin-muslimah minat avril lavigne yg kapeq tu..
so adakah kita nak kata avril tu betul sebab ramai peminat dia berserban berjubah belaka...


Jazakallah

Anonymous said...

masyaAllah, bestnye komen shahnom tu. setuju 100%. Alhamdulillah, ramai gak sbnrnya dah faham perjuangan PAS ni. tp, yg x paham tu, teliti dulu before membuat andaian.

owh nak cerita gak psl pakcik aku ni, dr x solat sume, pastu x psl2 solat dan berubah sgt2 la lepas join pas ni. Alhamdulillah, kalau nak tgk bende negatif mmg banyak, tp positif nye lagi banyak. kenapa x kita sama2 bantu nak ubah benda negatif tu jadi positif?

Anonymous said...

aku si penyindir sudah sampai...

min ni kalo tak kene sindir dia takkan bangun tido..

sekarang aku datang dengan pendapatku..

pernah aku berbincang dengan kawan2 ku dan juga melalui perhatianku, aku suka dengan institusi pondok. kerana ilmunya bersih dari sebarang fikrah. tidak pernah aku lihat ilmu sebersih itu diberikan kepada orang ramai. tiada unsur fikrah langsung dimasukkan. Jika ingin dibandingkan dengan usrah 1st year ku, penuh dengan Pergerakan Ikhwan dan pendapat2 mereka...lalu aku pikir, hebatnya hai si ikhwan ni, sampai begitu skali pengaruhnya...tetapi aku sedar satu perkara...mereka ini hanyalah manusia biasa yang dilahirkan pada akhir zaman.

Aku juga memiliki buku tafsir fil zil Al Quran..dan aku memerhati dan cuba memahami segala pengisian nya, aku sedar...ia lebih kepada fikrah dan tauhid hakimiyyah yang sering disebut oleh Sayyid Qutb. Pelik kerana kenapakah pendapat Sayyid Qutb itu dijadikan fundamental kepada Qada' dan Qadr..dan berbagai lagi perkara yg aku runsing kerana pelik akan ilmu itu yg diajar oleh orang yg tidak berilmu sepenuhnya.

aku pulang malaysia..2 bulan aku duduk bergurukan pakar2 tafsir dan hadith. mereka ini golongan yang belajar pondok paling kurang 13 tahun..ada yang datang dari pakistan dan ada yang datang dari india dan ada juga datang dari indonesia dan ada juga dari malaysia...

terfikir aku sejenak, mereka ini pulang..ilmu mereka tinggi dalam agama..datang dengan berdakwah..tanpa sebarang ape pun pendapatan..hanya mengharapkan sumbangan ikhlas dari orang ramai..kereta nyer wakaf orang..makan minum nye hanya dari sedekah orang hasil dari ilmu yang di ajarnya...sepenuh masa berdakwah mengajar ilmu yang mereka miliki. aku lihat ramainye orang yang mengikut mereka ini, kerana mereka ini berilmu.. aku pelik.. kenapa mereka yang berilmu ini duduk dibawah Tuan Guru..menyetujui dengan pergerakan PAS itu sendiri. malah menerima fikrah PAS itu sendiri.

tidak pula mereka sibuk menyebut Demokrasi itu jahilliyah!!, jikalau mereka ini berilmu

lalu aku sedar,..bagi mereka yang duduk di luar negara..ada sesetengah pihak cuba memburuk2kan masyarakat malaysia semata2 untuk membenarkan pemikiran mereka yang langsung tidak mengambil kira pandangan masyarakat malaysia dan cara masyarakat malaysia berfikir. sibuk mengatakan PAS sibuk berpolitik..tinggalkan pendidikan islam kepada masyarakat. dan muhaimin ko adalah salah satunya.

adakah adil untuk kita judge masyarakat kita tanpa melihatnya PADA SETIAP PERSPEKTIF? terlalu byk perkara yang tertinggal apabila engkau menyebut PAS IS TOO FOCUS ON POLITICS!! neglecting education of islam towards the society! dah cukupkah engkau memahami masyarakat dengan duduk dibawah tempurung keluarga yang murah rezekinya dan belajar di Ireland?

apabila ada orang mengajar engkau agama, lalu mereka berkata PAS too focus on politic. Engkau percaya tanpa melihat mekanisma masyarakat malaysia itu sendiri. Kenapa ya?

Sabda Rasulullah SAW
'Kelebihan orang yang berilmu dibandingkan dengan orang yang hanya beribadat samalah seperti dengan kelebihanku dibandingkan dengan orang yang paling rendah dikalangan sahabatku' (riwayat At-tirmidzi, dan beliau sendiri mensahihkan hadith tersebut)

based on this hadith, kalau la ape yang ko cakap tu betul yang PAS tu tak educate ppl dan terlalu jahil untuk tidak melihat perkara tersebut, maka Ilmu engkau jauh lagi byk dan pengalaman kau jauh lagi valid untuk masyarakat malaysia dan orang yang mengajar engkau agama itu jauh lagi tinggi ilmunya dari Tuan Guru.
-fikir2kan lah dengan hadith itu..

PS: sebagai menambah point shanom mengenai PAS, Fikrah pas berasal dari Al-Quran dan As-Sunnah bukannya dari fikrah Ikhwan, yang sering diagung2kan oleh sesetengah pelajar di oversea.

dan jangan samakan taraf ilmu AL-hafiz Ibnu Kathir dengan As-syahid Sayyid Qutb dan As-syahid Imam Hassan Al-Banna. Siapakah yang patut kita jadikan asas dalam perbentukan fikrah islamiyyah diri? fikir2kan..

and to zul... hahahahaha...(aku gelak skit kat ko) jangan lurus sgt dowh...

to shut...perli statement is the best opening statement in public speaking..i am not genius thus i dont need to help ppl that way. What i need is to make ppl realize reality..not to sleep in fantasy


one more thing, your qoute
'i just saying that establishing islam through politic is not a perfect idea. in politic, u critized people for 20 years and after that when u see they can help u in your campaign, u celebrate them for instance dr mahathir, anwar ibrahim, ezzam and etc.'

nampak sgt tak paham langsung, what's going on actually...tu la sibuk baca harakah and blog jek...tak paham langsung ape yang berlaku..dok sibuk ngan media tapi tak cukup ilmu untuk memahami keadaan. Dont hanya rely on media untuk kasik tau semua perkara..terlalu buta untuk memahami perkara yang sedang dan telah berlaku dan tunggu untuk disuap segala-galanya.

wallahualam..sekadar memberi pendapat yang tak seberapa...

Anonymous said...

hhhmmm... serap kene baca usul 20 nih... bukannya pelajar oversea tu mengagung2kan fikrah ikhwan, pemikiran syed qutb etc... as long as tidak bercanggah dgn quran dan sunnah, salahkah jika mereka ikut??? sila baca usul 2 daripada usul 20... selagi ISLAM, maka pendapat diterima... dan kalaulah ada kesilapan dalam pemikiran mereka, tidak kira ikhwan or syed qutb, hatta hasan albanna pun, pasti mereka yang FAHAM akan menolak pemikiran mereka...

p/s qada' dan qadar??? ada sumthing yg salah ker dalam pendapat syed qutb mengenainya??? hhhmmm... fundamental??? jika pendapat tidak lari dalam ISLAM, salah ker jika kita ikut??? hatta kalaulah tuan guru nik aiz punye pendapat ttg qada dan qadar pun ISLAM, nescaya benar lah dia... it's a matter of FAHAM or TIDAK FAHAM ttg ISLAM... bukan masalah taksub, agung-mengagungkan etc... selagi ianya berada dalam ruang lingkup QURAN DAN SUNNAH, maka ikutilah... fikir2kan...

Anonymous said...

aku rasa baik serap baca usul 20 tuh sampai abes... at least pun samapi usul 10 pun jadilah... kalo baca usul 2 jek tak cukup r...

Anonymous said...

keep it up min... love all ur articles...

biarkan mereka2 yang taklid dgn ideologinya...

No one knows who's right or wrong antara Pas n Umno..atau Bn... yang betulnya bg diri saya ialah Islam itu Benar.....

You can say what ever you want but respecting others opinion is also important...